TheTransitioner/Talk

NathanielThurston -- Thu Sep 3 11:47:55 2009

Fridemar, do we really need local bilinks here on meatball? I would imagine that the back-link functionality you get by clicking on the page title is at least as good. (using it just now gave links to IntelligenceCollective and CraoWiki:TheTransitioner)

Nathaniel, you and me and all the insiders are fully aware, that clicking on the title lists all pages, that refer to the current page. The reason I have been using BiLinks a long time with SilentAgreement is:

Newcomers might not be aware of this and can experience a wider context, just from the beginning
Explicit bilinks between non-local pages flow more naturally, if experienced on a local level. Non-local bilinks is a generalization of the WikiNode concept
Explicit Bilinks are also appreciated in [AboutusOrg:BiLinks].
It is comfortable for authors to build and traverse their bidirectional graph of pages, they care for, by reducing clicking.

It would make me very happy to have more social and technological support for increasing awareness towards a more bidirectional Web, starting from local to global. Your question is helpful. Thank you. -- FridemarPache

Not to mention the google page rank increases this way, at least in theory...

HelmutLeitner -- Thu Sep 3 20:44:07 2009

I also doubt the usefulness of these links. I admit that I'm part of what Fridemar interpreted as SilentAgreement, it seemed not worth the effort to oppose this practise. By the way, if an author needs quick access to his pages, he may just as well collect links to them in a workspace page. And, the SisterSite (SisterPage?) feature produces such links automatically without that they get in the way of linear readers.

FridemarPache -- Thu Sep 3 20:57:06 2009

Helmut, I noticed that so called SisterSites (as e.g. WardsWiki have problems)

are not a symmetrical relation (what the name suggests) or
are updated only once a week or never

and that on Meatball we had a SilentAgreement to use the updated concept of TwinPages.

HelmutLeitner -- Thu Sep 3 21:02:26 2009

Fridemar, there has been no collective agreement at Meatball to use TwinPages. I'm only aware that you have been using this scheme and that others have tolerated it.

SisterSite is a concept and it depends on how well it is implemented. I know implementations that work instantly. But most hosts don't bother to implement it.

Helmut, could you please point to such implementations?