Kyu-young Kang (jania902 at hotmail dot com) is developer in small software company at Korea. He is interested in XP and patterns.

http://jania.pe.kr

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Messages:

''Welcome Ja''
:<i>thanks Mark. please call me JaNia instead of Ja :)</i>

Is jania your real name?

And the inquisition reaches another newcomer...

<i>I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that this wiki strongly prefers RealName. Could you tell me how to rename this page and my id? (My RealName is KyuyoungKang) --JaNia</i>

:You can change your id just by going to [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=editprefs Preferences] and putting in a new UserName. Nice and simple. :) As for moving the page; the simplest thing on this wiki would be to just go to the new page (you've got a link right above) and copy in your info. See PageDeletion if you want to delete the old page after. --BrionVibber

::<i>Thanks a lot. :) --KyuyoungKang</i>

Hi KyuyoungKang, welcome. Some time ago I visited NoSmoke and I know JuneKim from a long e-mail exchange. So I know how different these parts of the wiki world are. I'm from Europe and that's also a different story. Feel at home. Where exactly do you come from? -- HelmutLeitner

:Thank you for your kind welcome. I'm from Seoul. I also know NoSmoke and JuneKim. Actually he explained me that this wiki prefers RealName. --KyuyoungKang

Are you a wiki founder or a wiki developer? Or where are your special interests? -- HelmutLeitner

:Er... neither one is true. I'm just a plain developer not like you. :) I'm interested in ComputerScience and SoftwareEngineering especially the software patterns and the agile methodologies like XP. Recently I'm reading TheNatureOfOrder, a new book by ChristopherAlexander, by recommendaion of JuneKim. --KyuyoungKang

That's great. I've preordered it but haven't yet received it. It would be fine if we could discuss it here. I think that CAs ideas are tightly woven with the wiki, even more than with software patterns. What are your first impressions about TheNatureOfOrder?  -- HelmutLeitner

Christopher, for a decade, had been advertising that he was writing the book and even had some reviewers read it. So I had some information about the book. I read reviews on the book and I've been following his somewhat recent works like A New Theory of Urban Design and his OOPSLA speech. So there was not so much of shocking stuff in the book. However, I really like the book. He goes down from his pattern works to "principles" that can generate such patterns. I think we, computer programmers, have a lot to learn from his recent works. And, we, wikizens, have a lot to learn from them, too. His principles are more adaptive and more generative. His patterns were somewhat analytical rather than generative. Give a beginner a pattern, will s/he do a wonderful job? From my experiments, I learned that giving generative simple principles/rules is much better. This applies to Wiki. In Nosmoke I used to try to make a network of many tacit culture rules. Now I think it isn't that effective. If I'm building a new wiki site, I'd rather go post-Christopher-Alexandrian(aka Nature of Order style). BTW, book 2 is more on the sequences, whereas book 1 is more on the simple principles of good design. I'm interested in the Process so I'm waiting for book 2. -- JuneKim
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