FilmViolenceImpact

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Does violence in films in- or decrease violence in real life?

: I think that there is no direct causal relationship between seeing violence in film and the use of violence in ones life. But violent pictures stay in peoples minds and in some minds it will work as a blueprint for similar actions, so in general and statistically I think that, yes, violence in films and violence in real life correlates. But this is OffTopic here, I think. http://www.networkagainstviolence.org (the German http://www.netzwerkgegengewalt.org is more populated) was founded years ago to seek answers to such questions. -- HelmutLeitner

: Thank you Helmut for the great links, I will explore and perhaps create some bilinks. -- Fridemar

Discussion

Is attempting to destroy a wiki a form of violence? -- PatrickAnderson

In the current context this is a subtle question. Destroying a wiki appears to be another formulation for destroying the manifested work of peers in a wiki.

A vandal attack to a wiki reminds me on the story of a religious teacher, who hold a lecture on non-violence (ahimsa). This person was attacked by someone of his audience with hefty words, that he was unqualified to teach the topic. On this reaction the teacher lost his temper and called for some strong men, who took the offender and placed him outside. By the way the offender turned out to be a great Yogi.

So my hope is, that you JohnPhilip are a great Yogi, testing our capability to follow our own core-values ;-) Fridemar

Violence in films may or may not be relatable to an individuals life, depending on their type of lifestyle or how they live. I've never been much of a fan of TV. IMO they fill it with any old garbage and the shows are boring and even have a sense of phoniness. Law & Order for instance; they try but no cigar! And no I dont agree destroying a wiki is vandalism not exactly violence - JohnPhilip

John, to let people understand you better, I wrote the comment in answer to Patrick. When trying to save it, we had an EditConflict. You were earlier. So your words "destroying a wiki is .. not exactly violence" could be the effect of a telepathically transmitted self fulfilling prophecy of my YogiTest? hypothesis . -- FridemarPache

Well if you're interested I was simply answering his query... - JohnPhilip

And before we're so swift to be "against violence" we need to come to terms that its realism and a natural reaction to what we as a whole are surrounded by. Some people say they hate violence yet can't paint their way out of a toilet when asked to explain themselves - JohnPhilip

John, let's come to terms. What kind of violence did hurt you, some of your family members, your friends or anyone, you have sympathies for? -- FridemarPache

I just happen to be a fan of the darker type of filmmaking. Its just "me" if you know what I'm saying. Our family has gone through some trouble but no worse than others. Violent movies help me in a certain way. - JohnPhilip

John, please help me to understand this. What's the help, you get from "violent movies".

satisfaction that your real life is not that bad
distraction from real life (problems)
example material to make your own (mental) films (hopefully not actions)
a topic to discuss/enjoy with friends
satisfaction that a hero at last solves it all (a la Bud Spencer)

-- Fridemar

Actually, its none of the above. Its to critique and enjoy the film itself, not the true act. Its a fact that I enjoy those types of films (or novels for that matter). Basically, I like watching and analyzing those types of films as opposed to agonizingly boring romance type films. And Bud Spencer is a goon; you dont seem to get where I'm coming from. And make a mental note that nobody changes my opinions. I dont necessarily care what people think because one can't care what a person thinks of them, at least not all the time. Its cool if people hear me out and I listen to their views. THAT is fine. - JohnPhilip

John, you not only helped me (and hopefully other peers too) to better understand you, but also gave me a good feeling, with your signal, that you listen to other people's views, and writing "that is fine". I feel better to hear from you, that you enjoy the making of the violent film, but not the true act. So you have the moral power to not automatically become a victim of the templates of violence and amplify them into real life actions. Everybody has the right to build one's own opinions and stack to them (or change them). Like you (and probably some other peers here) I had watched the film "Gandhi", but I must admit, that I had nearly suppressed in my memory all those violent scenes, that really happened. You had made in me a "wake up call". Thank you. -- Fridemar

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