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What should I say here ?
I am building a distributed wiki -- one where if any single server gets unplugged, people still continue using the wiki as if nothing had happened.
To get it working right, I'm going to have to deal with the DistributedCacheConsistency problem -- one of the MeatballOpenQuestions.
Ideally, I would like to set up a bunch of servers, each one in a different city.
- What would one be volunteering for? -- HansWobbe
- Ditto Hans's question. I am interested, but more details appreciated. I need to know if I have technical capabilities in my existing services and equipment, for one... -- SamRose
- Same here -- RadomirDopieralski
- Hey David, I saw the following a while ago and wondered if they applied to your vision: --PatrickAnderson
- http://WikiShare.sf.net ''Wiki Web and file sharing in a distributed datastore. The project aims to define a protocol and to provide implementations for a fully decentralized web authoring and content management system.
- http://RetroShare.sf.net ''A private Peer to Peer (P2P) Network which allows you to share information with only the friends you want to: So actually this Instant Messenger is a Friends-to-Friends Network.
might be possible that http://interreality.org is able accomplish this, too. -- SamRose
I certainly hope any of these things are well within Sam's technical capabilities.
- Some volunteers would watch the wiki and "guide" new users, like sysops on any wiki.
- Other volunteers would install the distributed WikiEngine software on a computer, which I hope will be easier than installing the average wiki.
- Alas, the software hasn't been written yet, so I'm looking for yet more volunteers to help write and maintain the software, also.
Thank you for telling me about interreality and retroshare.
Wow, the WikiShare? looks like exactly what I want to do.
who am I
I am the first editor at the
I also edit many other wiki:
- Welcome, David!
- Not germane to MB, but it is nice to discover we share a common faith. -- ScottMoonen
David, got your email reminder. Sorry WikiCities appear no go for now as I think we need at least 3-4 persons with common interest (lots more if interest match is less specific). Incidentally Peter Merel is looking for a DotNet? wiki now and I advised him to stay at C2 for that.
But all is not to waste. I recommend you to add "The Inner Ring" speech reference (by CS Lewis year before WW2 ends) to BackRoomDecision page here. I chanced upon it while wandering amongst various wikis and found a link thru CommunityWiki. I was (and will continue ) looking for more info on how wikis work. I would discard wiki if there is a better collaboration mechanism online.
Again my apologies for having ignored you. -- dl
Looking for a DotNet? wiki?
A bunch of them are listed at
BackRoomDecision now mentions "The Inner Ring".
Yes, we were talking about "The Inner Ring" at CommunityWiki:CommunityWikiGovernmentMotivation and CommunityWiki:CliquesAndCommunities .
I am astonished by how relevant this 1944 speech is to everyday life in 2007.
I'm not sure why the page SlashDot did not have any history. It should have had at least one prior version. -- SunirShah
Well, I can't think of anything else I can do about it other than tell you, so I'm going to forget that glitch.
Welcome David, now I am fully aware of you, after having you seen on TransparentSociety. Transparency is meanwhile a core-value of [AboutUs], which I support full-heartedly. See also HoofSmith. -- FridemarPache
DavidCary thanks for your edits to http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage (OpenBusinessModelsWikiHive?) -SamRose
How do you become a sysop in MeatBallWiki? --WallaceCook
David, I think I may have found an easy way to partially implement a distributed wiki, by using mercurial or git under the covers. The idea would be to do a partial solution:
- make one server responsible for edits at any given time. This obviates the need to solve the DistributedCacheConsistency problem -- the server that's in charge of edits has the definitive version of the page database.
- make a list of servers on one of the pages. Use the google cache of that page to locate another server if one goes down. This obviates the need to use DNS or a fancier mechanism to implement failover.
- use the mechanisms of git or mercurial to implement consistency.
I think this would solve most of the need for a distributed wiki, with very little effort, especially if it's implemented on top of one of the several DRCS-based wikis (Hatta, gitit, wikiri. Others?)
Your thoughts? -- NathanielThurston
- Based on what little I know, this seems to be quite an interesting "wiki" approach. I'm interested in learning a bit more about how this could play out since I remain completely committed to the personal use of wikis and have been spending quite a bit of time using other technologies to "link" wiki MicroContent? amongst the many specific wiki sites I now find myself working on. -- HansWobbe