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This page is for discussing the existing and future tours of the TourBus.

Old discussions and decisions are kept in the BusRouteDiscussionArchive.

The routes of the TourBus are shown at the TourBusMap.

If you want your wiki to become part of the TourBus, put your data at WikisInNeedForBusConnections.

Frequently Asked Question

Some wikis don't really have an active "manager" or point-of-contact. In such cases, would it be acceptable to just go ahead and add a TourBusStop without seeking permission?

IMHO no. It is not probable that some community may not like a bus stop, but it might happen. We should respect this. They also might have their own vision about their position in the tour system. This should be discussed before putting them on a certain tour. -- hl

IMHO before setting up a TBS in a wiki the host or some active member of the wiki should be asked whether they want to be on the tour. A representative should be invited to join the BusManagement, the TourDiscussion? and they should write their own TBS page (if at all possible). -- hl

IMHO I think it would be ok to add a TourBusStop to wiki's that we have not gotten permission. IF the TourBusStop is a pointer to WikiCentral? currently MeatBall:TourBusStop. I agree that we should seek permission about being put on an actual tour and discussion about location with in a tour. To not be able to put a pointer to the WikiCentral? tour start seems to me un-Wiki. -- MarkDilley see TourBusStopTemplate

It will become a lot easier, when more tours are up and new wikis can be added just one by one. But even then we should be careful to find the best place and the best connections for them. IMHO nobody should just link himself in on his own.

Suggestions for existing tours

As I see in TourBusMap, all tours are circular. I'd prefer some tours having starting and ending point. So "you have to change". (sorry for probably misplaced comment) --WolfPeuker

Help wanted! Susning.nu requires since spring 2004 that people must login in order to change the wikipages on susning.nu but Susning.nu does not allow any new accounts right now. Is there anyone with access to edit the susning.nu pages that can correct the http://susning.nu/TourBusStop page. The destination of the SWEDISH-WIKI-COMMUNITY-TOUR link to hörnan is wrong since Hörnan Wiki have been taken down. The link should now point to [ArkivetWiki:TourBusStop].

Have you tried to e-mail LarsAronsson (mailto:lars@aronsson.se) for help? -- HelmutLeitner

Tour extensions

Suggestion

I suggest to add GründerWiki to the end of the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Jun 4, 2004 21:45 CET. Done. -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add GründerWiki to after BücherWiki in the PROWIKI-TOUR.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Jun 4, 2004 21:45 CET. Done. -- HelmutLeitner

Planned tours

Symbols: (I) invited, (C) under construction, (+) TBS-page exists. Wikis that want to be linked, please consult WikisInNeedForBusConnections.

Discussion

We already have WikiPedia and KnowHowWiki as candidates - is there possibly enough meat for a KNOWLEDGE-GATHERING-TOUR out there? (Perhaps the IaWiki could be a connection point.)-- ip

I think WikiPedia is planning a tour for its wikis. Look at their TBS. I hope that Stephen will design it as an open tour (ENCYCLOPEDIA-TOUR) that other similar projects may join. -- hl

I believe Kurt started the planning the multi-lingual WikiPedia tour, but I'm not sure. I'm all for a general encyclopedia/wiki tour as opposed to a WikiPedia-specific one, especially since the Spanish Wikipedia forked and is now not under the name "WikiPedia". --StephenGilbert

Isn't ENCYCLOPEDIA-TOUR a too specific name? I don't think that it matches the intent of the KnowHowWiki very well, for example... -- ip

I was thinking of an OPEN-CONTENT-TOUR myself. KnowHowWiki is under the GNU FDL, isn't it Seb? --StephenGilbert

Yes it is. I think OPEN-CONTENT-TOUR is a mightily good idea. Adding SimpleScienceWiki would make three. Anyone know other explicitly GFDL/public domain wikis? --SebPaquet

would the math wiki [15]; the SquirelMail? project [16]; openwiki [17] -- fit into this category? -- md

French tours

Currently more than 100 wikis in [WikiIndex:CategoryFrench] are in French, currently about 107 . Think it could make sense to begin a LangueFrançaise Tour ? As for numbering, I'd suggest 24 (for a small "balade", a LangueFrançaise Petit Tour) if there's no objection ? -- ChristopheDucamp

Literary tour?

I suggest a Literary tour: TolkienWiki, BookShelved, YesterdayYesterday?... any others out there?

As for numbering your tour, #1xx is generally reserved for wiki engines, but pick any number that you think would be a good number for the tour! Best, MarkDilley

Suggestion

I suggest to add HTMLWiki to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR after LugWiki?.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Aug 15, 2004 8:45 CET.

Suggestion

I suggest to add HTMLWiki to the SOFTWARE-DEVELOPER-TOUR after CSSWiki.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add TuxFutter? to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR after LugWiki?.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Oct 14, 2004 18:00 -- HelmutLeitner

Thanks, Helmut :) mail to our authors is out (for motivation). Now let's go on a trip :) -- Hauke

Suggestion

I'd like to add the [VeganWiki] to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR after GründerWiki. Please add your suggestions or questions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- [Tim]

Tim, an alternative place to put VeganWiki might be after CoForum. I think both wikis are near each other in sharing this "alternative" feeling. -- HelmutLeitner

I also thought about that. I'd agree to that, no question, but perhaps it even would be better to somehow "break" the computer-orientated agglomeration on the route and invite people to join with more "life-orientated" topics. What do you think? -- Tim

I'd prefer to leave the decision to you. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't chose the tail position because of politeness alone and offer an alternative. -- HelmutLeitner

Okay... I'll pass that decision to our authors :) Best regards, -- Tim

Done. October 18, 2004 -- Tim.

Suggestion

I suggest to add HerzKinderWiki to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR either

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Nov 16, 2004 20:50 -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add DaynotesForum

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Dec 16, 2004 21:35 -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add MemoryAlpha

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Feb 9, 2005 20:35 -- HelmutLeitner

How does this work?

As far as I can see there are very few wikis on the very few bus routes that have been implemented in TourBusMap. There are many uggestions on this page, yet most haven't yet made it trough. Why? Any reason why I shouldn't just add a new wiki to a route? Any reason why I shouldn't create a new route and choose some arbitrary route number? -- sgbailey@iee.org

There are different reasons why wikis have not been joined. Sometimes there was no fitting route, sometimes the wiki was just created and had neither a community nor interesting content (no reason for a stop), often there was no TourBusStop page created (lacking preparations), sometimes owners didn't come back to answer requests or to care. Do you want to tell us about your wiki project and yourself? It would help you to create a homepage here and let us know what you are doing. What route do you want to create? -- HelmutLeitner

KnowHowWiki

Appears to me to be broken. I click on the link to its Busstop (route 66) from meatball and I get a "you do not have permission to access this page message." Can you fix it? -- sgbailey@iee.org

Thank you for the information. The only fix is to remove it. -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

BeatDoebeli has prepared a complete German "Wiki in der Schule" (Wiki at school) route:

I suggest to activate it as #31.

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

done. Apr 23, 2005 -- BeatDoebeli

I added StadtwikiKarlsruhe to WikisInNeedForBusConnections and understood from HowToForTourBusConnections that this should result in any kind of response within approx. 2 days. Now moe than 2 weeks are gone by, obviously I missed something. Can someone please give me a hint?

I'm sorry, I missed that entry. Thank you for reminding. -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add StadtwikiKarlsruhe to the Germany Community Tour. Positions

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

done. Jul 22, 2005 22:50 CET.

Suggestion

I suggest to add StadtwikiKarlsruhe to the Tourism & Travel Community Tour. Positions:

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add PenguPedia to GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR after Tuxfutter. [-- Tom Mettner] Okay "start time" was some time ago. Who sets "end time"? [-- Tom Mettner]

What about a MediaWiki tour? It would have WikiPedia, MemoryAlpha, TMBW, and HomestarRunnerWiki among others.

Sounds great! How about suggesting a route number and contacting/setting up BusStops?. Would you be the driver? --Best, MarkDilley
I guess I'll do it. <strike>What about the curent MediaWiki version number for the route number? That would be 153 for version 1.5.3.</strike> --SeanFennel
I see now that the WikiEngine tours are just numbered sequentially. So, I'm changing it to 108. --SeanFennel

Suggestion

I suggest to add HomestarRunnerWiki to the ECLECTIC-WIKI-TOUR.

Whoah, guess I should probably mention that I added it Jan 6, 2006 about 00:10 CST. --SeanFennel

Suggestion

I've proposed and gotten 5 wikis on board for MEDIAWIKI-TOUR. The exact layout of it is somewhere near the middle of the page.

I suggest to activate it as #108 (#105 if the other WikiEngine tours above aren't going anywhere for a while.)

Please add your suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". --SeanFennel

Guess it's been a while. I'll take it by the silence that I've got approval to go ahead. --SeanFennel

Suggestion

I suggest that WikiIndex be added to the MediaWiki tour. If Sean would like that I will add a TourBusStop to the site. oh heck, I may do that anyway.

Best, MarkDilley

It'll go in once I poke around it enough to be able to decide where to put it in. --SeanFennel

How about between WikiPedia and MemoryAlpha? --SeanFennel
I'm going to hold off adding it in until the stop is finished (meaning it discusses WikiIndex instead of HomestarRunnerWiki). BTW, there's a way to change the main page to something other than the default "Main_Page" in MediaWiki. I'd have to look it up on MediaWikiMeta?, but if you want to do it, I will. --SeanFennel
I'm going to put it in right there. Let me know if you'd rather have it somewhere else. --SeanFennel

Suggestion

I suggest to add the German OpenOfficeWiki to

Please add your comments or suggestions or extend the end time if there is a need. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after the end time. -- HelmutLeitner

I think in the German Community Tour, LinuxWiki and the wiki of the Linux User Group (Lug) should remain directly connected, hence OpenOfficeWiki should be inserted before LinuxWiki or after LugKr wiki. In the MoinMoin Tour, I would prefer to put the OpenOfficeWiki before, not after the PythonWiki, thus connecting it with the german JuraWiki, or to put it between LinuxWiki and JuraWiki, as OOo is very commonly used for academic work. (Or did you mean the german PythonWiki at the very end of the MoinMoin tour?) Thanks. -- MartinBayer?

Mattin, I followed your suggestions.

Done. Apr 23, 2006 8:30 CET-- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

I suggest to add ProWikiCenter to

Please add your comments or suggestions or extend the end time if there is a need. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after the end time. -- HelmutLeitner

done. Jun 01, 2006 14:30 CET

Suggestion

I suggest to add ProWikiCentre to

Suggestion

I suggest to add ZumWiki at the end if #31 (German "Wiki at school")

Please add your comments or suggestions or extend the end time if there is a need. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after the end time. -- HelmutLeitner

done. Oct 16, 2006 12:10 CET -- HelmutLeitner

Suggestion

Add PlasticsWiki to MediaWiki Tour after HomestarRunnerWiki.

Do I really need to type the rest of it? I think y'all know the drill. --SeanFennel

Done November 25, 2006 22:00 UTC --SeanFennel

Suggestion

I suggest to add StadtwikiPforzheim? (www.pfenz.de) to the Germany Community Tour. Positions --Cornelius Wasmund

Feel free to add yourself at the appropriate places. --ThomasWaldmann April 9, 2008

TourBusMap

What about a map as concept map like this one? This would allow the users to plan their own tours on the fly. One could even think of innovative wikis, containing (only) concept maps, where each "page" is a view to some sub graph of Wiki Topics (which take over the role of wiki pages) . -- FridemarPache

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