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IMHO EmacsWiki is ready to be linked into the SOFTWARE-DEVELOPER-TOUR.

I assume that there are no reasons against putting it in.

Position planning (please sign the position you want, prefer, support, or veto)?

I would link it in 48 hours from now (about Jul 16, 2002 22:00 CET) at a consensus position. -- HelmutLeitner


This textline was removed from Bus #42 [on TourBusMap]:

Reasons:

And:

-- HelmutLeitner


The LugKr Wiki likes to join the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR.

There is a thematic neighbourhood and some Interwiki-Links to LinuxWiki. So we would like to enter the Bus Nr. 03 between LinuxWiki and PythonWiki. We invite german speaking wiki tourists to have a look at our nail-new (but still unused) busterminal at http://lug-kr.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/lugwiki.pl?TourBusHaltestelle. Please can the BusDriver?(s) give a comment on this and link the pages together (or shall I do it?) -- ThomasBayen

Please agree to wait for a 48 hour period, so that everybody interested may read this and contribute. I support your suggestion. If there is no veto (opposition, alternative suggestions) I would link you early after Jul 17, 16:00 CET. -- hl


[Jul 16, 00:50 CET] The INTERNATIONAL-WIKI-TOUR is roughly assembled (it is not yet linked).

All English wikis of the GWCT are in the tour alternating with the new wikis. MoinMoin is also in the tour (currently only reachable via DseWiki -> GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR -> PythonWiki -> MOINMOIN-WIKI-TOUR -> MoinMoin).

IMHO IaWiki could join anytime it solves its Netscape problem.

Are there objections to the route?

Otherwise I will link it and put it up soon after Jul 17, 24:00 CET. -- hl


[Jul 18, 2002 12:30 CET]

Please sign the positions (you support, prefer or veto) the wiki to be linked after:

If there are no vetos, I'll put it on the the IWT at the majority position about [Jul 20, 2002 20:00 CET] -- HelmutLeitner

I think putting BookShelved after WhyClublet is the best idea. Anywhere else is fine by me too. --StephenGilbert

...route length... #66 is meant to be a long, winding tour for passengers who have time. The typical tour will contain perhaps 8-16 wikis, but #66 may IMHO grow to 20-40, maybe even more. -- hl

...other thoughts... The typical wiki might be put on 2-4 tours: e. g. BookShelved on IWT (English, general), e. g. WIKI-FRESHMEN-TOUR (it's young), KNOWLEDGE-X-Y and HUMANITIES-X-Y (for its topics). If there a few similar wikis on the IWT, they could form a tour of their own (maybe only the largest remaining on IWT if IWT is on the upper limit). Other languages will grow a similar structure (the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR serves the same purpose as IWT+SDW combined and might be splitted when large enough). When a tour and a wiki community grows large enough on IWT it may be linked to the GWT. IMHO the GWT serves as the backbone for the wiki world. -- hl


Has anyone noticed that IWT covers the same stops as GWCT, but takes them in reverse order?


NvcWiki? is back up. It's server crashed, and lost basically all pages (remember, backup!). Even before, it wasn't ready to be on a bus tour, but hopefully this all will help prompt me to get it going. As if i wasn't busy enough. CreationMatters has not been very active, but i'm perfectly happy to have it on any tour wanted. My intent is to have it under some kind of open license, although there has been no explicit copyright license page as yet. --JohnAbbe

John -- I think it is great to have the NvcWiki? ready to go, but the newer or less active wikis are going to be slower to get moving, so I just threw up the frame work for the Bus Stop for now. What are your thoughts about putting AbbeNormal on a tour line? -- best, md

Happy to. Also, lacking objections to the WIKILOG tour proposal above, i will start inviting and making pages in early August or so. --JohnAbbe great!


Is the Bus Tour scheme actually still alive? UnrealWiki has been on the waiting list for well over a month now. -- Tarquin (yes, it's a nickname. Sue me, Sunir ;-)

Tarquin, the TourBus is still alive. It just cooled down a little (and I didn't mind). Sorry for the delay and thank you for your patience. -- HelmutLeitner


[Sep 09, 2002 8:00 CET]

I suggest to put UnrealWiki into the SDT. Please sign the positions you support (prefer or veto) the wiki to be linked after:

If there are no vetos, I'll put it on the the SDT at the majority position asap after [Sep 11, 2002 8:00 CET] -- HelmutLeitner

[Sep 11, 2002 8:15 CET] done


[Jul 18, 2002 12:30 CET]

Please sign the positions (you support, prefer or veto) the wiki to be linked after:

If there are no vetos, I'll put it on the the IWT at the majority position about [Jul 20, 2002 20:00 CET] -- HelmutLeitner

I think putting BookShelved after WhyClublet is the best idea. Anywhere


Suggestion

I suggest to put the CommunityServerWiki into the SOFTWARE-DEVELEOPER-TOUR:

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority ASAP after "suggestion end time". -- HelmutLeitner

done. Nov 2, 2002 12:00 CET


Suggestion

I suggest to put the CommunityServerWiki into USEMOD-WIKI-TOUR:

I changed the original suggestion from "after UnrealWiki" to "after EmacsWiki" because otherwise at UnrealWiki both buses would go to the CommunityServerWiki.

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority ASAP after "suggestion end time". -- HelmutLeitner


Suggestion

I suggest to put the HammondWiki into the INTERNATIONAL-WIKI-TOUR:

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority ASAP after "suggestion end time". -- HelmutLeitner

done. Nov 2, 2002 11:45 CET


Suggestion

I suggest to add the JuraWiki [1] to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR.

Possible positions after:

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Jan 28, 2003 15:20.


Suggestion

I suggest to add the JuraWiki [1] to the GERMAN-COMMUNITY-TOUR.

Possible positions after:

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done. Jan 28, 2003 15:40.


Suggestion

I suggest to build the MWT this way:

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Maybe to exchange the order of SusningNu and DaWikiPedia?, so that there are no two wikipedias one after the other? done

done. Nov 19, 2002 10:20 CET


Suggestion

I suggest to add the TolkienWiki [2] to the INTERNATIONAL-WIKI-TOUR between BookShelved and KmWiki.

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

done. Nov 22, 2002 7:30 CET


Suggestion

I suggest to create the PROWIKI-TOUR

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after the deadline. -- HelmutLeitner

done Nov 25, 2002 16:15 CET.


Moved from TourBusMap:

I moved it, because the tour is hardly more than a suggestion. Even the single wiki on it doesn't have a working TBS page. The tour number should be changed, because 1xx is more or less reserved for wiki engine tours. Please look for at least 4 similar wikis. Also think about an Italian wiki tour. Please give the basic informations using WikisInNeedForBusConnections. -- HelmutLeitner


I'd like to petition that MeatballWiki be added to the WIKI-DEVELOPER-TOUR. -- SunirShah

Sunir, I've been waiting for a response of Clifford to start the WIKI-DEVELOPER-TOUR. I even offered to write the TourBusStop - no reaction. Are you in contact with him or would you write the UseMod TourBusStop? -- HelmutLeitner

Start it. I'll write it. -- SunirShah

checking for UseMod:TourBusStop

Ok. Then I suggest to start bus #2 this way:
MeatballWiki => DseWiki => MoinMoin = PhpWiki
and we can join the other wikis as soon as their TBS page is ready. I'll do it - if no-one objects - as soon as possible after Feb, 16 10:00 MEZ. -- HelmutLeitner


I have added the bus line #80 to the [[TourBusMap]] and my homewiki, [Wikipedia NL], to line nr.80. If there are objections please let my know. giskart AT wikipedia DOT be 13/02/2003

I have no objections, that's fine. Thank you. -- HelmutLeitner


Suggestion

I suggest to add GrubstreetWiki to the INTERNATIONAL-WIKI-TOUR after TolkienWiki (I've also considered "after WikiPedia" and "after MeatballWiki").

Please add you suggestions or vetos. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Done Apr 15, 2002 14:00 CET


Please can we try running this in a Wiki Way? I added a bus stop to a tour a few weeks ago, without waiting weeks for management decisions, and everything was fine :-) -- in fact, about a week later, someone added another site in the chain. Of course, the maps are now out of sync .... ;-) but I thought we'd scripted that. We trust people enough to edit pages, I think we should apply the same principles to this. (tarquin of UnrealWiki ... but I never sign around here!)

Well, you've helped yourself. If there are no problems, fine. Don't try to establish this as a rule and - in case of problems - don't ask for help. The wiki way isn't about the right to edit pages, it is about collaboration, consensus and tolerance - if at all possible. You could introduce yourself and your wiki to do at least a step in that direction. -- HelmutLeitner


Suggestion

I suggest to add FluxDepository? to the ECLECTIC-WIKI-TOUR after YpsilantiEyeball?.

Please add you suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

sounds good to me - MarkDilley

Jul 24, 2003 8:00 CET. Done. Sorry that it took so long, I had to leave for some days earlier than expected. -- HelmutLeitner



Suggestion

I suggest to add WikiFish to the GRAND-WIKI-COMMUNITY-TOUR. WikiFish will act as a connection wiki for a new UNIVERSITY-WIKI-TOUR.

If you agree, please comment on the position. I have no preference.

Please add you suggestions. I'll act according to the majority as soon as possible after "end time". -- HelmutLeitner

Jul 27, 2003 22:00 CET. Done. -- HelmutLeitner


Tour #102 USEMOD-WIKI-TOUR can be erected with existing wikis from other tours. I only hesitated because I invited Cliff, but currently he seems to have a reduced his wiki engagement. Please comment on the suggested route. I thought it might be good to separate EmacsWiki and UnrealWiki.

Im open for any changes. If there are no vetos or major discussions, I'll put in on ASAP after [Okt 20, 2002 22:00 CET] By the way, I think that we can avoid a "waiting wiki tour" by installing tours for the major engines and a "wiki engine tour".

-- HelmutLeitner

I disagree about avoiding a waiting wiki tour. My main idea is until it can be decided where wikis go, why not just instantly connect them? MarkDilley

It was just an idea that would also allow instant connection. But Tour #6 is well prepared, so when will you install it? -- HelmutLeitner

I think it is definately a good idea. If we can get them up and running, I think you are right, instantly connecting wikis to their respective engine tours might be the answer to quickly getting wikis up on tours. Since we don't have that currently, unless there are objections, I will put the Eclectic tour up on 10/7/2. . . MarkDilley (even if the line gets taken down after other lines are up, I am ok with that)

cool, I think that we need to think about people taking the tours, will they know what the tours are about. (do we say on each page, this is the UseMod wiki engine tour?) -- also bringing up a question for BusCentral? again, me thinks, MarkDilley


I have created a Bus Stop for EsWikiPedia at es.wikipedia.org at http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TourBusStop , in english. It would fit in an encyclopedia tour line, that appears to be in the works. What else should I do? It also has an iterlanguage conection to a Bus Stop in Spanish, that could be linked to a spanish bus route, if one is ever done.--AstroNomer?

AstroNomer?, EsWikiPedia can be part of the MWT (Bus #12), I had expected your participation (look at "potential participants"). I'm happy that you are willing to put EsWikiPedia as a connection wiki to the Spanish wiki world - that's perfect. Regarding the encyclopedia tour: I thought that StephenGilbert would organize it sooner or later, because the WikiPedia wikis are the backbone of this tour (but I never talked with him about this). -- HelmutLeitner

I'm afraid I'll have to pass. I really should "resign" from BusManagement, too. I like the TourBus idea, but the wild web of CategoryBus pages are too much for me. Good luck with it. Also, I'll keep the English WikiPedia Tour Bus Stop in my watchlist, and keep it safe from vandalism. -- StephenGilbert

I have created a Bus Stop for DaWikiPedia? at da.wikipedia.org at http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TourBusStop , in english, and in danish at http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Busholdepladsen , and linked them with each other. I think it would fit into the MULTILINGUAL-WIKI-TOUR and/or the planned encyclopedia tour. If I need to do anything else to get it included in a tour, then please let me know. -- ChristianList?

Tank you. No, ther is nothing else to do (for both tours). Just put an e-mail address or a homepage link here in case I need to contact you. -- HelmutLeitner

Go to this address http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Emailuser&target=Christian and here you can send me an e-mail ! -- ChristianList?

I see that the routes keeping up with the explosion of wikis round the world. MeatballWikiTour? is a page that I am suggesting for MeatballWiki that would be a feature link from the TourBusStop page. The MeatballWikiTour? would be an intra-wiki tour for non-English speaking visitors and would involve deployment of the Google translation tool.

MeatballWikiTour? is based on a page that I added with the help of Rainer|Langenhan to the German-language JuraWiki which can be found at

http://jurawiki.de/JuraWikiTour

I am hopeful that we can get assistance to create segments on the MeatballWiki tour page for German, French, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian tours of the JuraWiki site in addition to the English tour that is on the JuraWiki:JuraWikiTour page at the URL above.

Since Google does not do well translating pages with different languages, if a guest book is in order for "foreign" language visitors at a particular site, I would suggest one such page for each language where comments and observations could be left. JohnDeBruyn (July 31, 2003)


EmacsWiki is supposed to link to PythonWiki -- but that is a German wiki; is PythonWiki a MultilingualWiki? Other than that, cool to be linked! :) -- AlexSchroeder

You're right, this is a inconsistency and IMO we should take PythonWiki out of this Tour sooner or later. On the other hand it was the first connection to MoinMoin and to J?gens MOINMOIN-WIKI-TOUR, so I didn't want to do this before his other connections havn't improved (seems MoinMoin will be on #66 today) and the decision hasn't been prepared and discusses. -- hl


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