The point is simply to add automatic linking to the equivalent page presented by the other side. You wouldn't get the whole debate on one page, but you'd get a presentation by each side that takes what the other says into account, and it should tend to reach a state of equilibrum. Each side would have to present its view intelligently and augment the SignalToNoiseRatio. And unanswered questions would stick out like a sore thumb.
Eventually one side could be filled by "devil's advocate", in case it isn't represented enough (I'm on side A, hardly anybody is present on side B, so I go and get arguments from bulletin boards and suchlike, giving more flesh to the debate).
I don't know what this is worth, it would be interesting to test it. Another possibility is to allow for more than two sides. On one issue, you would have pages by every "worldview" that takes a stand on that issue. This could make an interesting giant opinion and debate wiki (and doesn't require any special technology ... CamelCase words as concatenations of the worldview name and the issue name would work, and the linking side can be done manually).
DoubleWiki is using a wiki somewhere between ThreadMode and DocumentMode. Or maybe it's just DocumentMode, but used for debate.
A test was implemented on PeriPeri, see PeriPeri:PeriPeriForDebate and PeriPeri:NaturalismVersusSupernatural for an idea of what it can look like.
Maybe this is why TransClusion is important here - if both views are presented on the same page, but seperately, you don't get crossposting, though experiments with PeriPeri showed that people may still answer next to the text being commented, instead of using the other side ... see also Wiki:SplitByTopicNotByOpinion
DoubleWiki and PeriPeri
Original discussion :
I don't know if this is of interest, but with a small addition to PeriPeri this could be supported - add an "aye" and a "nay" half to a page (probably a "Consent" and "Object" facet). The addition is simply to format the page so the two viewpoints are side-by-side. I would be happy to make this change if you want to try DoubleWiki out. -- ChrisPurcell
No problem, experiment away, just don't go over the pages already there :)
Shatter would not polluted by Christians:PascalsWager? as the first word is not a wiki-word. ReligionChristianity?:PascalsWager? would be a problem.
As to /left and /right, they're there to make lists of links and are too small to hold real text. I'll patch in a better couple of commands.
Addendum: Right, they're in, use \first and \second followed by a single capitalized word.
wow cool thanks, I'll go test em right away, I just figured out that \left doesn't seem to work, and \right is ugly ... see PeriPeri:TransclusedSandBox
Tested it ... I don't really see the difference between \first, \second and \follow, apart from the fact that \follow doesn't change the order .... I was expecting a left/right splittting, but it's only top bottom, on PeriPeri:SplittedSandBox. Oh and maybe this isn't really the PeriPeri feature request place, but it'd be nice if after editing a "sub-page" (transcluded page), there was a way of getting directly back to the "father" page where you were when you first edited (oh and as an afterthought : PeriPeri and the facet system look great, I'm looking forwards to the third (or is it forth now?) spike being implemented on UseMod, and though I haven't got to read through everything. It looks awfully interesting and powerful ... lotsa good ideas. -- EmileKroeger
Don't they sit side-by-side on your machine? They do on mine. I set it up with CSS, perhaps that's the problem. I've had another hack at it, maybe that's fixed it for you? -- ChrisPurcell
Oh yeah nice, it works now! Thanks a lot, I'll go play with it a bit. I do wonder if the text won't be, well, ugly in a narrow half-page, but I think getting both viewpoints on a single page is better --EmileKroeger
OK Just created PeriPeri:PeriPeriForDebate, and an example page ... I'll try to put more meat in it later, I find that this is an interesting way of understanding about PeriPeri and FacetWiki ...
I will be taking the DoubleWiki project off PeriPeri soon, unless anyone objects. The only hits I have seen to them are from people Googling for something more "canonical"; I therefore conclude their utility is negative. I will keep the pages somewhere in case anyone desires to resurrect them at a later date. -- ChrisPurcell
AaronSwartz? blogged about something slightly similar he calls WikiCourt? at http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001175
On CommunityWiki there's an interesting piece about how debate works in that community and others : CommunityWiki:WikiDebateLimits (Does NearLinking? work both ways here ?)
It points out the importance of refactoring in debate. In DoubleWiki, the main mechanism that encourages refactoring is that you want *your* side of the argument to be presented best. So, you try to keep it clear and understandable. Refactoring comes from a spirit of competition and not from GoodWill?. And keeping the two pages seperate keeps that spirit of competition from damaging the good will (You don't want people refactoring the other side's arguments, unless they're severely unrepresented). -- EmileKroeger
Might interest : http://www.nooranch.com/synaesmedia/wiki/wiki.cgi?WikiPoweredArgument
Why not generalizing/implementing/using an extendable holistic TwinBall instead of a static dualistic DoubleWiki = TwinWiki. Offering a TwinBall has the following benefits: e.g. additional TwinWikis for
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