WikiVanning

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We're in San Diego now. Notes from the trip down are at Dead Link: boo! http://wiki.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning Archive.org link http://web.archive.org/web/20061231031333/ws2005.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning

TedErnst and BrandonCsSanders are convening a 4 day OpenSpace WikiVanning event around WikiSym 2005. We're going to drive from Portland, OR down to WikiSym in San Diego CA in a rented vehicle (size depending upon the number of participants). During the trip there and back we are going to hold an OpenSpace style event where each participant gets to bounce their ideas off the others. Each direction (down and back up) for the trip should take 2 days. Potentially we are considering adding a swing up to Seattle as part of the trip.

quick summary

Brandon, Ted, Lion, Mark and John are in for the road-trip. Ted has a room reservation for Sat arrival in San Diego and Weds departure. More are welcome in the room to save money. On the WikiSymWhosGoing page there are others looking for lodging as well as some other loding choices. If someone wants to find a cheaper room for us, go for it and I'll cancel Days Inn.

Participants

BrandonCsSanders (confirmed) -- completely flexible on itinerary and "program" :)
TedErnst (confirmed) -- fly into Portland on 13th (11pm), out of Portland on 23rd am
LionKimbro (confirmed) -- Seattle-ite; Can help transport to/from Portland
JohnAbbe (confirmed) -- Oakland
MarkDilley -- (confirmed) -- In Tacoma late on the 12th.
PhilMitchell (out) -- Will have just moved to Seattle, definitely want to be in touch I don't know whether PhilMitchell is still visiting meatball, but in an email he said, "I think wikivanning is out for me" -- Ethan
EthanMcCutchen and LewisHoffman? (confirmed Oakland to Seattle) -- Eugene.

Evolving Itinerary

Oct 13 Seattle ==> Portland (sleep at BrandonCsSanders's place)
Oct 14 Portland ... 8am register additional drivers at Budget 10835 SW Canyon Rd, Beaverton OR 97005
Oct 14 Portland ==> Eugene (1030am breakfast banquet offered by EthanMcCutchen and LewisHoffman?)
Oct 14 Eugene ==> Oakland (sleep at JohnAbbe's place)
Oct 15 Oakland ==> San Diego (check in to [Days Inn])

: WikiSym - 4 nights in San Diego

Oct 19 San Diego ==> Oakland (sleep at JohnAbbe's place)
Oct 20 Oakland ==> Portland
Oct 21 Portland ==> Seattle (morning)

Seattle ==> Portland 3 hrs with no stops
Portland ==> Eugene 2 hrs with no stops
Portland ==> Oakland 10-11 hrs with normal stops
Eugene ==> Oakland 8-9 hrs with normal stops
Oakland ==> San Diego 8 hrs with normal stops

Minivan

Through Budget rent-a-car I've reserved a minivan that seats 7. Pickup at 6pm on 13th and return 6pm on the 21st. With only me as a driver the cost is $268.23 for unlimited mileage. To add drivers the cost is $304.22 plus $9/day per driver capped at $45/day.

$268.23 Only brandon drives
$376.22 One other driver
$448.22 Two other drivers

We'll need to stop by the rental place after 8am on the 14th to sign up any additional drivers. Must be 25 with a drivers license.

Lodging

[Days Inn Seaworld] for Sat, Sun, Mon & Tues nights for $404.45. TedErnst, BrandonCsSanders, LionKimbro, MarkDilley and JohnAbbe are Inn.

MattisManzel: For the two days of your drive down to WikiSym and back up I want

you to be broadband-perma-connected to the web
a live stream audio to inside the car full duplex
two live streams of cameras, one for inside the car, one view to the road
gobby for everyone

All we need is one person with EVDO and http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/6a278ca927d05010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

EthanMcCutchen says "more compelled by the journey than the destination". Which makes me ask is WikiSymPreWiki? Yup

ChristopheDucamp: bonjour Brandon. WikiVanning is a great idea. I'd like to translate it one day ;) Pehraps WikiCamionnage?, I still don't know. For the moment we think small in France. Currently testing a new CraoWiki:CoVoiturage inherited from CarCulture...

CategoryWikiSym

Notes for the trip are here: http://ws2005.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning

Pulling out book etc references:

"The Failure of Technology and the Survival of Indian Nations" http://www2.akpress.org/2002/items/intheabsenceofthesacred - MarkDilley