Maybe this page needs to be titled WeblogWikiSystem? - as I am now experimentingt with BliKi and love it. (just hope it has some nice features of weblogs). This page is me trying to BludgeonTheData? with weblog users, trying to help them understand the importance of wiki ideas.
What is needed:
I think we could start a few more WikiLog offshoots. My personal homepage has made the slow transition from read-only wiki, to wiki, to wikilog, so somewhere within me I feel some ideas are wanting to come out; they just need a little prodding. The rest of this page doesn't seem very interesting. I think we should take the good stuff and put it on WikiLog (or one of the new offshoots) and delete (or redirect) this page. WikiWeblog and WikiBlog should both redirect to WikiLog. -- AlexSchroeder
In effect TwikiClone and Wiki:SwikiFarm could be used for this too DaveChristenson
Also see AbbeNormal:WikiWeblogs
Could we speak here with SergeStinckwich (french adaptation of the MoniWiki - korean WikiEngine localized in french dedicated to some experiences of WikiSchool?) ? -- ChristopheDucamp
Self organizing WikiWeblog structures.
BlogWiki? is a wiki devoted to blogs and blogging ( the only one, as far as I know ) http://theconnexion.net/cgi-bin/blogwiki.pl
I have spent nearly two years (four now, I think it is starting to seep in) conversing with people about the usefullness of wikis. Many, many people just don't get it. So, quite by accident, I started working on a weblog, and found that I could create any FrontPage I wanted, so I had access to self organize more structured, more understood and accepted weblogs, in to a wiki like system. That's the idea anyway, @ They Call Us Troublemakers below.
I sat down to try my hand at a "true" weblog, not the posting I had been doing over at YpsiEyeball?:TheDailyDilley?, but a proper weblog.
After thinking about it for a while, I became excited about the potential to self organize like we do on wiki. In fact I came to the conclusion that one of the most important aspects of wikis were their ability to be self organized. However another of the most important aspects of wiki is not a part of traditional weblogs. Namely ease of editing. The open editing of wikis I felt comfortable placing in an open comments section, for now.
[ TheyCallUsTroubleMakers?] is, for me, the start of this idea of WikiWeblogs?. But the clearest example so far is on my WikiWeblog - [MarkDilley]
This idea is still messy, thanks for your patience with me. MarkDilley
I am totally confused. You seem to be using the term WikiWeblog differently from me -- as if it were a project or a site somewhere. To me, a WikiWeblog is the same as a WikiLog -- a site that runs a wiki and has blogging features. Can you clarify? -- AlexSchroeder
I'm currently experimenting with a ZWiki and weblog (similar to the PersonalWiki and SubWiki approach described above), if you're interested see http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/ZwikiWeblog - FlorianKonnertz
I'm confused. What exactly do you mean by "self-organising"? Do you mean the web-site organises itself (which the term suggests to me), or that you organise it yourself (which from your usage I think you mean, but am not sure)? -- ChrisPurcell
More to the point, is time no longer the overwhelming factor in the organization? If so, it is not a weblog.
If i'm understanding you correctly Mark, you've made a bunch of weblogs, and are exploring wiki-like ways of inter-connecting them? I imagiine it would be a lot easier with PikiePikie or another of the already-integrated wiki & weblog systems out there, which allows for multiple weblogs (See AbbeNormal:WikiWeblogs; also Socialtext is finally getting close to recommendable). Some require a little technical know-how to set up, but once up, creating weblogs within them is trivial. Or are you trying to figure out how to do this across all the variety of weblog systems already in use?
The things we're trying to name are moving targets (as people write new code and come up with new ways of using it) WikiLog was at least initially about a very particular combination of wiki and weblogs. I've always used wiki-weblogs to mean anything that explores the overlap of the two media. Now i'm trying to understand what Mark means by WikiWeblog. Looking at his setup, it looks like weblogs organized in a little bit of a wiki-like way (the links at the top of each of his weblog). I would guess he'd be open to special modifications, but i dunno. --JohnAbbe